As we head toward the finish line for season 11, we are again sharing a previous recording with a TIME100 climate influencer, this time, our February 2025 conversation with Ari Matusiak. Like last week’s reboot, Ari, the co-founder, president and CEO of Rewiring America is a “defender” –  and the concept of rewiring our homes is certainly something in need of defending.

Since this interview is from February, let me share what he recently called the single most important action the public, or a specific company or government, needs to take in the next year to advance the climate agenda.

“To recognize and invest in households as energy infrastructure. We are living through the convergence of three forces: unprecedented load growth, a worsening affordability crisis, and the urgency of climate action. Household upgrades are the fastest way to add capacity to the grid, lower costs for families, and reduce emissions. Our latest analysis shows upgrading households to efficient electric devices could offset all projected data center demand growth over the next five years.”

I know you’re going to want to tune in to this conversation, whether you caught it the first time around or not.