Ohio Gov. John Kasich spoke to the Council on Foreign Relations, where he said he believes human beings contribute to climate change.

“The degree to which? I’m not sure,” he said. “And neither is anyone else quite sure.”

“Just imposing willy-nilly goals and rules that may not even be able to be achieved while displacing people in the workplace is not my idea of how you would handle this issue. I’m a believer in renewables, but I believe in the whole series of energy resources, and I think they need to be exploited,” the governor explained.