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In a conversation with CNBC commentator John Harwood in Concord, New Hampshire, Carly Fiorina, former Hewlett-Packard CEO and the eleventh candidate to make the cut for tonight’s Republican debate in Simi, California, summarized her position on climate change.

“I believe if you’re going to go to science, you need to read the fine print. And here’s what the scientists say: A single nation acting alone can make no difference at all. The only answer to this problem, according to the scientists, is a three-decade global effort, coordinated and costing trillions of dollars. Are you kidding? It’ll never happen.”

Fiorina has consistently called for innovation over regulation. “And the only way to innovate is for this nation to have industries strong enough that they can innovate. So instead of destroying people’s livelihoods at the altar of ideology—which is what it is, not science—we ought to say, ‘We’re going to become the global energy powerhouse of the 21st century.'”

“We need to become the global energy powerhouse of the 21st century for so many reasons,” Fiorina added. “To create jobs, to make the bad guys less bad, and so that we have industries including the coal industry that’s powerful enough to be able to innovate. That’s how you’re going to solve an intractable problem. It’s always the way you solve an intractable problem.”

Fiorina has been climbing in the polls since the first Republican debate in August.